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		<title>by: nesoca</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>(posted on behalf of the sender)

Let me answer Roshanju’s enquiry as to what has inspired me to raise this issue at this stage.

Newaah De Daboo joined Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities NEFIN despite having very few common issues with indigenous nationalities of Nepal. For instance, illiteracy and poverty are the main issues for them while they are non-issues for us because we have the highest literacy rate in Nepal and are relatively well off compared to other sections of the society. Caste system is a non-issue for them while it is a BIG issue for us. The language issue is a top priority for us but they don’t seem to mind much about it.

I firmly believe that continuing our current policy on indigenous nationalities could seriously hinder our progress in the changed political context of Nepal.

For instance, Nepal has finally been declared a secular state but some of our leaders joined other NEFIN members to burn certain sections of the Interim Constitution because the cow has been maintained the national animal and that some indigenous nationalities ate cow’s meat! Secularism is not anti-Hinduism and we need to be sensitive to others’ sentiments. (See my article, “Defending Secularism in Nepal”, eKantipur 29 May 2006). Such acts could destroy the religious harmony that we Newars have been enjoying for so many centuries.

Newars are on their way to ethnic autonomy in Nepal Mandal. The recently concluded Brihat Newaah Ganataantrik Sabhaa is an example of our progress on this. Most NEFIN members, barring a few, are not yet ready for such action. Dragging them along can seriously affect our own movement towards Ganatantra and Jaatiya Swashaasan.

NEFIN has just announced a two-week long agitation against the Interim Constitution. Such actions could not only help the forces of regression but our affiliation with it could seriously damage our credibility in the current national politics. Our leaders should therefore reconsider our relationship with NEFIN Now!&quot;

Kind regards.

Uday Bajracharya</description>
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	<p>Let me answer Roshanju’s enquiry as to what has inspired me to raise this issue at this stage.</p>
	<p>Newaah De Daboo joined Nepal Federation of Indigenous Nationalities NEFIN despite having very few common issues with indigenous nationalities of Nepal. For instance, illiteracy and poverty are the main issues for them while they are non-issues for us because we have the highest literacy rate in Nepal and are relatively well off compared to other sections of the society. Caste system is a non-issue for them while it is a BIG issue for us. The language issue is a top priority for us but they don’t seem to mind much about it.</p>
	<p>I firmly believe that continuing our current policy on indigenous nationalities could seriously hinder our progress in the changed political context of Nepal.</p>
	<p>For instance, Nepal has finally been declared a secular state but some of our leaders joined other NEFIN members to burn certain sections of the Interim Constitution because the cow has been maintained the national animal and that some indigenous nationalities ate cow’s meat! Secularism is not anti-Hinduism and we need to be sensitive to others’ sentiments. (See my article, “Defending Secularism in Nepal”, eKantipur 29 May 2006). Such acts could destroy the religious harmony that we Newars have been enjoying for so many centuries.</p>
	<p>Newars are on their way to ethnic autonomy in Nepal Mandal. The recently concluded Brihat Newaah Ganataantrik Sabhaa is an example of our progress on this. Most NEFIN members, barring a few, are not yet ready for such action. Dragging them along can seriously affect our own movement towards Ganatantra and Jaatiya Swashaasan.</p>
	<p>NEFIN has just announced a two-week long agitation against the Interim Constitution. Such actions could not only help the forces of regression but our affiliation with it could seriously damage our credibility in the current national politics. Our leaders should therefore reconsider our relationship with NEFIN Now!&#8221;</p>
	<p>Kind regards.</p>
	<p>Uday Bajracharya
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		<title>by: Freedom-lover</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 01:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-27</guid>
					<description>I do agree with the information as stated above.

1. I would appreciate if all the readers also refer - Time magazine of march, 2006 (forgot the issue no.) in which the origin of human being has been illustrated including the whites of Europeans, North America, and South America, with scientific logics.

Basically, the source of human being in all continents dates back to 12000 years from Asia.

So, the people of Nepal. The question is who settled first.

When we say Newars:

1. Based on language
2. Based on local culture
3. Based on ethnic background
4. Based on caste and creed, and race

But if a Nepalese immigrates to USA and after 10th generation or 15th generation, they do not know who they are and they are locally adapted and their native language and food is Engllish in this case.

In the case of Newar too, there are so many ethnic group within Newars who have immigrated and settled in Kathmandu, followed the sampel culture and tradition to adjust in society now called themselves as Newars.


Therefore, it is a complex issue. But personally, i do not consider Newars as the indigenous ethnic group, but I would rather say then as the citizens of First Nation.

However, I look forward to see comments.

Freedom Lover
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I do agree with the information as stated above.</p>
	<p>1. I would appreciate if all the readers also refer - Time magazine of march, 2006 (forgot the issue no.) in which the origin of human being has been illustrated including the whites of Europeans, North America, and South America, with scientific logics.</p>
	<p>Basically, the source of human being in all continents dates back to 12000 years from Asia.</p>
	<p>So, the people of Nepal. The question is who settled first.</p>
	<p>When we say Newars:</p>
	<p>1. Based on language<br />
2. Based on local culture<br />
3. Based on ethnic background<br />
4. Based on caste and creed, and race</p>
	<p>But if a Nepalese immigrates to USA and after 10th generation or 15th generation, they do not know who they are and they are locally adapted and their native language and food is Engllish in this case.</p>
	<p>In the case of Newar too, there are so many ethnic group within Newars who have immigrated and settled in Kathmandu, followed the sampel culture and tradition to adjust in society now called themselves as Newars.</p>
	<p>Therefore, it is a complex issue. But personally, i do not consider Newars as the indigenous ethnic group, but I would rather say then as the citizens of First Nation.</p>
	<p>However, I look forward to see comments.</p>
	<p>Freedom Lover
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		<title>by: roshan</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-25</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-25</guid>
					<description>Isn't this the same old topic, which has been discussed enough in various forums ? I don't know what has inspired Uday to put arguments that are not new and appealing as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Isn&#8217;t this the same old topic, which has been discussed enough in various forums ? I don&#8217;t know what has inspired Uday to put arguments that are not new and appealing as well.
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		<title>by: babukaji shrestha</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-20</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>yes, i agree with u. we, newar r not indigeneous people.there should b more discuss about 'nepal mandal'. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>yes, i agree with u. we, newar r not indigeneous people.there should b more discuss about &#8216;nepal mandal&#8217;.
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		<title>by: Rajesh</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-19</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Agreed that the aspect of leadership representing Newah has always been subject to debate. Reasons? There are a group of elites who have different opinions about each others that has a smell of personal issues (should I term it ego?) beyond newah unity issues. The elite group have somehow missed to reach out to the bottom of the community as they successfully did to outdo the Rana and Panchayat system which at least promoted literatures if not local empowerment of the raised political issues. I'm not in a position to decide whether we should come out of the box of &quot;indegenous&quot; or to support the term for the approach towards political empowerment of newah community. But I can surely comment that the age now is not based on TOP DOWN approach of power/knowledge/information but the strength to face and uplift our needs in common through BOTTOM UP approach making all at the bottom citizen feel responsible for both progress and failures. In this context, the efforts of elite should also be into transformation of ideologies into younger generation. More should be done to encourage children and youth to know about our own identical culture with economic aspects broadening to fit their interests of self dependency. Otherwise, I feel, the future remains weak with youth attraction towards competency in global information and technologies for their career that promises more efficiency and self development than the identity of historical newars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Agreed that the aspect of leadership representing Newah has always been subject to debate. Reasons? There are a group of elites who have different opinions about each others that has a smell of personal issues (should I term it ego?) beyond newah unity issues. The elite group have somehow missed to reach out to the bottom of the community as they successfully did to outdo the Rana and Panchayat system which at least promoted literatures if not local empowerment of the raised political issues. I&#8217;m not in a position to decide whether we should come out of the box of &#8220;indegenous&#8221; or to support the term for the approach towards political empowerment of newah community. But I can surely comment that the age now is not based on TOP DOWN approach of power/knowledge/information but the strength to face and uplift our needs in common through BOTTOM UP approach making all at the bottom citizen feel responsible for both progress and failures. In this context, the efforts of elite should also be into transformation of ideologies into younger generation. More should be done to encourage children and youth to know about our own identical culture with economic aspects broadening to fit their interests of self dependency. Otherwise, I feel, the future remains weak with youth attraction towards competency in global information and technologies for their career that promises more efficiency and self development than the identity of historical newars.
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		<title>by: Kumar Bajracharya</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-18</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2007/01/18/newars-are-not-indigenous-nationality/#comment-18</guid>
					<description>yeah, this issue should be widely discussed and make Newar understand the ground reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>yeah, this issue should be widely discussed and make Newar understand the ground reality.
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		<title>by: Udaya Lal Shrestha</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/10/31/ramesh-shrestha-in-marathon-2005/#comment-17</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/10/31/ramesh-shrestha-in-marathon-2005/#comment-17</guid>
					<description>Congratulation and keep it up. Wish you a better success in the days to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Congratulation and keep it up. Wish you a better success in the days to come.
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		<title>by: yagyaraj upadhyay</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/08/26/demand-release-rna-soldiers-in-maoists-captivity/#comment-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:06:59 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/08/26/demand-release-rna-soldiers-in-maoists-captivity/#comment-14</guid>
					<description>i will search newspaper himalaya times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>i will search newspaper himalaya times
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		<title>by: testanchor540</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/pashupati-area-development-trust-bans-newa-bhajans/#comment-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/pashupati-area-development-trust-bans-newa-bhajans/#comment-13</guid>
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		<title>by: testanchor104</title>
		<link>http://nesoca.blogsome.com/2005/08/02/pashupati-area-development-trust-bans-newa-bhajans/#comment-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:29:25 +0100</pubDate>
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